Re: Q about /c/

Quoting Christophe Grandsire <christophe.grandsire@...>:

> En réponse à Joe :
>
>
> >Hmm.  Orbis Latinus claims that |y| is [j], as do a load of other sites,
> >a good chunk of dictionaries, and the tapes from my school Spanish
> >course.  Orbis Latinus also claims that the 'official' pronunciation in
> >España is that |ll| is [j], my teachers agree.
>
> I have to disagree. I was myself taught that 'll' and 'y' were identically
> pronounced, but had the disagreeable experience when I went to Spain to
> discover that it isn't so in Castille, and that officially 'll' is [L]. [L]
> is still very much used in Castillan Spanish (the Spanish of Madrid and its
> neighbourhood) and as it happens it's the dialect that is considered
> "standard" and taught at schools. My teacher of Spanish was of origin
> Andalucian and never went to school in Spain, which is why she taught us
> the 'll'='y' thing. After the trip, she admitted that it was not official
> standard, but that except in Castille everyone spoke that way.
Upholding the distinction isn't universal even in Castille. My relatives from
there merge 'll' and 'y'.

                                                            Andreas