Re: Which auxlangs? (was Re: I won't start a flame war)

Raymond Brown wrote:

> Why do we have to bring the petty & pointless politics of auxlang onto this
> list?
I think you may have missed the first few postings.
It is gradually developing into an annoying argument about
which auxlang should be left out. If Occidental is included,
I won't mind which others are also. I also suggested several
other good options.

> >Auxlangs will save the world, but only after they kill each other!?!
>
> Auxlangs will do neither.
Humor was not marked, or not appreciated, sorry.

> What's your beef with having Eo on the shirt, anyway?
> >
> >My beef is that you ought not to be judging auxlangs. Nor should anyone.
>
> But Don is not & was not - unless my understanding of English is at fault -
> making any judgment as to the fitness or otherwise of any conlang as an
> auxlang.  He was merely pointing to historical fact.
Esperanto is now a major competitor among auxlangs.
I'd rather not see it advertised above the others.
Volapuk and Solresol are safely dead and noncontroversial.

> To omit it from a list of conlangs is IMHO simply ignoring history and
> being petty minded.
Well, I'm asking for Occ to be present, then I have no problem.
There are only about 6 auxlangs in contention, so I'd like to see
all 6 or none.

> I can see that deciding between Occidental & Interlingua as the
> representative of the 'euroclone' (no one's mentioned 'Eurolang'!) could be
> a source of argument.  That's why Jay's Ekspreso is probably preferable as
> it's a euroclone conIAL of one the current list members.
Eurolang is another good one, if submitted.

> To ignore conIALs entirely seems to me a cop out.  They do form an
> interesting variety of conlangs.  To have Solresol as the representative of
> a_priori type, Volapuk as a 'mixed type', Esperanto as early a_posteriori &
> Ekspesso of more recent a_posteriori seems entirely reasonable to me.
Well, why not include Glosa, Occ, and Ido? They all have active lists
(I'm on them) and deserve a place. Interlingua too. Add Eo, that's 5.

> Heck - if we can't discuss these reasonably and objectively on this list,
> without getting into the petty-minded politics of auxlang, then I think I
> might keep to a list where this can be done.
My opinion is valid as yours or anyone else's, and I will exercise it.