Re: aspirated m?

I had been under the impression that it's
always a voiceless [m].  Ditto for [nh] and
[ngh].
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe" <joe@...>
To: <CONLANG@...>
Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 11:30 AM
Subject: Re: aspirated m?


> Sally Caves wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>> In Welsh, though, I think /mh/ is
>>> actually voiceless
>>> [m].
>>
>>
>>
>> In Welsh, there is no real aspirated "m";
>> phrases like fy mhen, "my
>> head,"
>> are pronounced /vVm'hEn/.  Like "some
>> help."  That's why I developed an
>> "aspirated m, n, and ng" in Teonaht.  You
>> shape these sounds and while
>> holding them breathe out through your
>> nose.  If your nose is stopped
>> up, it
>> goes right up your eustachian tubes.  Not
>> pleasant. :)
>
>
> In spoken Welsh, however 'fy' is often
> missed out, resulting in [mhen] -
> which could be an aspirated Nasal, I'm not
> sure.
>