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Re: Conlang dialects

From:Pablo Flores <fflores@...>
Date:Sunday, October 4, 1998, 18:08
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/Joe Mondello wrote:

>In Siniuz, especially when quoting something said in english, dialects or >manners of speaking are mimicked by use of cases and affixes or isolation. If >i am translating "I was unable to attend the film" I would, believe it or >not, use the more isolating forms, i.e. "je n'a pu sist le sin" as opposed to >"I couldnt go to the movies"-->"povdon' sinu." also, if i consider someone to >in general speak poorly, I translate their speech affixedly regardless of >whether what they said was proper grammar.
This reminds me of how I translate Tomoulini Ganmaa speakers trying to speak English. They use long complicated expressions, trying to emulate the TG structures with English vocabulary. For example, there's a party and the guest would like to say "We're all glad to have you here. Do you like this food? I made it myself without any help. Why don't you try some?". The TG speaker says instead: "Because we have you this place, we glad, we all. Food this place, you're please by it? This I made, this with no help. Propose you taste it." Translating different registers can be very tricky sometimes! --Pablo Flores ------ =_NextPart_000_01BDEFE1.CBEF9C80 Content-Type: application/ms-tnef Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 eJ8+IgoAAQaQCAAEAAAAAAABAAEAAQeQBgAIAAAA5AQAAAAAAADoAAENgAQAAgAAAAIAAgABBJAG ADwBAAABAAAADAAAAAMAADADAAAACwAPDgAAAAACAf8PAQAAAFIAAAAAAAAAgSsfpL6jEBmdbgDd AQ9UAgAAAABDb25zdHJ1Y3RlZCBMYW5ndWFnZXMgTGlzdABTTVRQAENPTkxBTkdAQlJPV05WTS5C Uk9XTi5FRFUAAAAeAAIwAQAAAAUAAABTTVRQAAAAAB4AAzABAAAAGgAAAENPTkxBTkdAQlJPV05W TS5CUk9XTi5FRFUAAAADABUMAQAAAAMA/g8GAAAAHgABMAEAAAAdAAAAJ0NvbnN0cnVjdGVkIExh bmd1YWdlcyBMaXN0JwAAAAACAQswAQAAAB8AAABTTVRQOkNPTkxBTkdAQlJPV05WTS5CUk9XTi5F RFUAAAMAADkAAAAACwBAOgEAAAACAfYPAQAAAAQAAAAAAAADkzkBCIAHABgAAABJUE0uTWljcm9z b2Z0IE1haWwuTm90ZQAxCAEEgAEAFQAAAFJFOiBDb25sYW5nIERpYWxlY3RzAPwGAQWAAwAOAAAA zgcKAAQADwAIACAAAAAaAQEggAMADgAAAM4HCgAEAA8AAQAsAAAAHwEBCYABACEAAAA5NjhEMTdE Nzk3NUJEMjExOUMyOTQ0NDU1MzU0MDAwMADWBgEDkAYA0AUAABIAAAALACMAAAAAAAMAJgAAAAAA CwApAAAAAAADADYAAAAAAEAAOQAgJDz/we+9AR4AcAABAAAAFQAAAFJFOiBDb25sYW5nIERpYWxl Y3RzAAAAAAIBcQABAAAAFgAAAAG978H/NNcXjZdblxHSnClERVNUAAAAAB4AHgwBAAAABQAAAFNN VFAAAAAAHgAfDAEAAAAbAAAAZmZsb3Jlc0B0YXUud2FtYW5pLmFwYy5vcmcAAAMABhDo3EjBAwAH EJQDAAAeAAgQAQAAAGUAAAAvSk9FTU9OREVMTE9XUk9URTpJTlNJTklVWixFU1BFQ0lBTExZV0hF TlFVT1RJTkdTT01FVEhJTkdTQUlESU5FTkdMSVNILERJQUxFQ1RTT1JNQU5ORVJTT0ZTUEVBS0lO R0FSAAAAAAIBCRABAAAATQQAAEkEAAAZBwAATFpGdUO6l7r/AAoBDwIVAqQD5AXrAoMAUBMDVAIA Y2gKwHNldG4yBgAGwwKDMgRGAgBwcHJxMSAIVQeyAoB9fwqACM8J2QKACoENsQtgbmBnMTAzNAr7 EvFzbDE4CqADYHQFkAVAL7hKb2UF0AIgDbBsFTDRGAwgIHcZAjoYDxkUtwqPGpgdFT4brxkUSQOg glMLgGl1eiwgB5CmcAWQBzFseRswaAnwGCBxdRkQC4BnIHObA3ASAGgiowtwZCALgKshUBdQbAQA aCFAZAcx/xkxBCAFsB0XGmsfPxkFA4E2bgSQJQFmItAhgGFrFyKiCsAZoG0HcGlja2kJgCBiIfB1 EfAokmNeYRHwBCAAcCOwYQ3Qad54B5EFsQQABvBhIpACIHIuGyBJZiVPJl8YumnhKVBtIHRyAHEs UiKx3CJJGzAq4CpQbgGgJMD9MCBvGyAsYBkgK0EjIBmgcSuQbG0iLMEbMAhgbFpkIUBiGgAIkHYZ oGnvBUAlLy3/GJxuGRAhQCpiPzKCBGApcSwlIrECEHJtInMhQGkuZSywImqBGaBuJ2EgcHUi0G8E AAVAMaEAkG4zATExb9hwcG8R8DJhbzSfNa+fGLow8QWgM3ECMCBnMeALMdE4BHYIkHMiLS2kPiI7 0HZkAiAnOxL0dS47Umwi4DmBKLAv4P8FoACBBIEi0wIgMbI8Xz1v+y8rA6BnCfAEkAdAKMQ6YH5v BbAh4CFAMQAwNjfjaddDUSGABZBoK2VkIeEVoP5nCxEkwAQRKKBEH0UvGLr/IhEygQXAIhAsYDJy IfAjg38xIhjxIYAFwAnAMAAAwHL2LkuPHnpUIzAEIBWgKaDPGeAEIAeAKJJobwfgSIrOVANwM2Eg 8SBHAHAAwO86UCjTKGIwMHkiojHRKNP9HRVFJBQssFLQT1EqYhUweyKxBaBtC1Ap0EkBI7Bl/ngT oEshLIE5cVaoUzAzcJtJBVLARx0VOsBydRlAHwhwB5ED8CMgV/Ygdm/dKtBiW8FWsCywRgWxWjCb MAALUGVa4U6hZScrEXs6YArAdCHwKzIygR0VZ28KUDrBM1M64Gkp8FcDYfkh8CJXYEApcSHBP9AL YOs8ElPwYTQReQhgU/BgIf0ssEQx4GTiYqRS4R0VAhA9BHA/MyEAwA2wNDJtef0R8GwosF2iCGAF QABwIfDJIiBscCywV2gh8EFizwVAZOJWoSLTPyJYc1JmfkdWBmMSBCALgDrAKPBkqjow4EIFkGEq YncZoO9kl2ZCOmALYGNf0W3hZBL/b0MhwVD2XzAEcG6bZOFjkv9fsSrhKiI0QGcwUtNnVF/i71Lx XaM3cGkVUFAhO+EdFf9qIyrgSRE0QEHwHRVSZjBJ/ySQDdBgIT+xSrE6sShiKtD/A6AzwF5gBJAh 8DAwKdFqhLsikAeBIXb8HRVA8FAxgb0x4EYVMQeQHRUUwQB+gAAAAAMAEBAAAAAAAwAREAAAAABA AAcwwPrcC8HvvQFAAAgwwPrcC8HvvQEeAD0AAQAAAAUAAABSRTogAAAAANbJ ------ =_NextPart_000_01BDEFE1.CBEF9C80--