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Re: Languages without verbs

From:Henrik Theiling <theiling@...>
Date:Thursday, November 13, 2008, 16:56
Hi!

Fredrik Ekman writes:
>... > I suppose that verbless (sort of) conlangs have been attempted before, and > I would like to hear some ideas of potential weaknesses and difficulties > with such an approach. >...
If verbs are simply replaced by suffixes, i.e., the word status changed to affix status, then I'd be tempted to call those affixes verbs anyway and simply say that verbs are affixes, not words on their own. Sounds like a polysynthetic language rather than one with no verbs. Depends on how many such suffixes you're going to have and on whether it's an open class and on whether such affixes are special from others and on where the classic tense, aspect, mood, person categories are expressed. A common thing is to remove *most* verbs, often leaving only one verb. Japanese is famous for borrowing verbs as nouns and using 'suru' (to do) to make it a verb in Japanese. And Basque, IIRC, only has very few verbs, in the order of five. My conlangs Qþyn|gài and Tyl Sjok have no distinction between nouns, verbs, and adjectives. Both only have one open lexical class (the closed classes usually being particles etc.). These two languages conflate the classes in such an abstract way that it is hard to say whether that class corresponds to nouns or verbs -- it is a different type of class, really, which may be used in both nominal and verbal context. My first conlang, Fukhian, which I constructed before I found this list, i.e., in isolation and separated from all the knowledge and ideas, has no distinction between nouns and verbs. I fancy that, it seems. (But it does have adjectives as a later analysis revealed.) Fukhian is a language that quite clearly has no verbs but does have nouns: it adds case and number endings to all the nouns in the sentence. Additional to that, verbal endings like tense, aspect, mood, are attached to the first noun in the sentence, which, if not carrying any other endings, looks pretty much like a normal verb if you don't analyse too deeply. If you do (e.g. when switching the order of nouns in the sentence (Fukhian has free word order)), it's revealed that it is just a normal noun without endings, carrying all the verbal endings that could be attached to any other noun as well, with or without nominal endings. (If a Fukhian phrase contains no noun at all, then a simple /t-/ is used to carry the verbal endings. You could call /t-/ the single verb in the language. A clean way to reducing the count to zero would be to require the use of a noun (or pronoun).) Fukhian feels like quite a conventional conlang to me, so I don't think there are any problems constructing a verbless language. **Henrik

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