Re: Wenedyk - Nouns

--- Christian Thalmann <cinga@...> wrote:

> I didn't know about the Slav cases, but they seem to
> justify the
> change well.  As for cross-declension leveling, I
> did the same in
> Jovian:
I guess that's a "me too" for Kerno. Well, Old Kerno,
to be specific. All declensions adopted -i as the
possessive singular and -ór as the plural. However,
the possessive rapidly merged with the dative, with -i
in the singular and -bo in the plural for all
declensions (and also the accusative). You can form
the possessive via the dative (the old "there is a
book at me") or the oblique. Note that this was before
the great Shift, so Kerno still had the five
declension system of Latin:

O.K.
nom.   la gwenna   li gwenni
pos.   li gwenni   lor gwennór
dat.   li gwenni   lis gwennabo
acc.   lâ gwennâ   las gwennas
abl.   lâ gwenno   li gwennas

M.K.
nom.   la gwenna   i gwenni
dat.   li gwenni   lis gwennab
obl.   lâ gwennâ   i gwennas

Late M.K.
nom.   la gwenna   i gwennas
dat.   li gwenni   lis gwennib
obl.   lâ gwenna   i gwennas

Early Mod.K.
nom.   la gwenna   i gwennes / i gwennen
dat.   li gwenni   lis gwennib
obl.   lâ gwenna   i gwennes / i gwennas

Mod.K.
nom.   la gouenna  y gouennón
obl.   lâ gouenna  y gouennón / y gouennas

The great Shift took place sometime in the premodern
language. Unhappily, very little Kerno is found
between about 1300 and 1870 (and what was found was
_mostly_ an archaising, frozen formal language); so
it's hard to sort out the evolution of forms.

> The -a declination (e.g. |maenca|
> "machine") adopted |-i|
> for the genitive singular from the -u/-un
> declination
> -- Christian Thalmann
Padraic.


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parla, mays ben parla; et pharleir becko il maboun.

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