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Re: Voiced Velar Fricative

From:Herman Miller <hmiller@...>
Date:Monday, October 23, 2000, 2:09
On Sun, 22 Oct 2000 06:23:05 -0700, Barry Garcia
<Barry_Garcia@...> wrote:

>I borrowed a book through interlibrary loan (from The University of Texas >at Arlington, BTW) on my grandfather's dialect of Visayan (A Philippine >Language) called "Aklanon" (Akeanon), and it says that it includes a >unique sound among the West Visayan Languages, which is the voiced velar >fricative. It tells how to make the sound, but i just cant seem to do it. >What other languages have this sound (better yet, where can I hear this >sound on the web)?
I think maybe Armenian might have it, and possibly Arabic, but I'm not certain if they're velar or uvular. My language Gjarrda has this sound, and you can hear sound samples (RealAudio only, unfortunately) of Gjarrda on my web page (http://www.io.com/~hmiller/lang/Gjarrda/spelling.html). Specific words that demonstrate this sound are: "digh" http://www.io.com/~hmiller/audio/j-digh.ra "gheil" http://www.io.com/~hmiller/audio/j-ghel.ra
>An interesting bit of info on it is, that in Akeanon, it is written as >"e", as in the native spelling for "Aklanon". It's also interesting to >note that this sound occurs where other Philippine languages would have >"l". The book also says it usually occurs with a or o, and rarely with i. >The book makes sure to point out that l is usually with i, and not usually >the voiced velar fricative. Any reasons for this, and why would l and the >voiced velar fricative be linked?
Interesting. Some English speakers use a sound that reminds me of a voiced uvular fricative for /l/ (at least in certain contexts). Armenian "gh" seems to be related to "l" sounds in other languages, as far as I can tell from what little I've seen of Armenian. Perhaps Akeanon /e/ developed from a velarized /l/, which can be associated with back vowels as in Irish or Russian. -- languages of Azir------> -<http://www.io.com/~hmiller/lang/languages.html>- hmiller (Herman Miller) "If all Printers were determin'd not to print any @io.com email password: thing till they were sure it would offend no body, \ "Subject: teamouse" / there would be very little printed." -Ben Franklin