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Re: Metrical Stress, Feet, Syllables, Genders, Email Servers etc.

From:Philippe Caquant <herodote92@...>
Date:Tuesday, February 10, 2004, 7:49
--- Nik Taylor <yonjuuni@...> wrote:

> But there's nothing sentient or humanoid > about the computer > I use. :-)
Maybe that's we KNOW about computers (and programs; the notions of computers and programs being very intricated among common users), but not how we FEEL it.
> Is "computer" masculine in French? In Spanish, > IIRC, it's feminine, la > computadora.
Is it ? I thought it was 'computador'. Wow, if computers (l'ordinateur, masculine) were female in French, that would certainly completely change our relation to them. (True, we sometimes say 'la machine', but that more often refers to hardware). It is quite usual to hear phrases like 'Il me dit des trucs bizarres', 'Il veut pas faire ce que je lui dis', 'Il est plante', 'Il m'insulte' (*), etc, about the computer, or rather, the whole (hardware + software). That means that the computer is perceived as something nearly human, even if everybody agrees of course that it is not. You can have a dialog with the computer, you give 'him' orders, 'he' is supposed to obey, or at least to explain you why 'he' cannot, or doesn't want to. That's why I think that a 4th gender would be justified for it. Could be something like "het" for instance (a mix of 'he' + 'it'); 'het' also being an article in Dutch. (*) He tells me odd things, He doesn't want to do what I tell him, He got stuck, He's insulting me... ===== Philippe Caquant "Le langage est source de malentendus." (Antoine de Saint-Exupery) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html

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Nik Taylor <yonjuuni@...>
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