Re: CHAT National toponyms (was: OT Caution!! IRA funding)

Yes, a part of South Lincolnshire is still called Holland. The Fens has to
be the most depressing place in the entire world.
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: "Wesley Parish" <wes.parish@...>
To: <CONLANG@...>
Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 10:35 AM
Subject: Re: CHAT National toponyms (was: OT Caution!! IRA funding)


> Part of the British Isles was called Holland - the East Anglian fens?
Have I
> got the right spot?
>
> "the hollow lands" = the swampy fenlands?  I think that's the meaning -
though
> as usual, I bow to superior knowledge.
>
> Wesley Parish
>
> On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 00:22, B. Garcia wrote:
> > On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 09:19:58 +0100, Peter Bleackley
> >
> > <peter.bleackley@...> wrote:
> > > A Dutch colleague habitually refers to his country as "Holland", in
> > > preference to "the Netherlands". Whether this is a particularly
Southern
> > > Dutch habit or not, I don't know, but he seems to regard "Holland" as
> > > more correct.
> > >
> > > Pete
> >
> > It's pretty common for many Americans* to call the Netherlands
> > "Holland". I try to say "The Netherlands" but sometimes habit is hard
> > to break and "Holland" slips out.
> >
> > Note: the following is NOT to start an arguement, just something I
> > find interesting:
> >
> > *As for "American" people have been calling people of the United
> > states that for much longer than the current issue of "Why do people
> > in the United States use "American" to refer to themselves?". Anyway,
> > Robert Louis Stevenson used "American" to refer to the people of the
> > United states in the late 1800's as such
> >
> > From "Across the Plains" in the chapter "Mexicans, Americans and
Indians":
> >
> > " Not even the most Americanised would descend to wear the vile dress
> > hat of civilisation.  Spanish was the language of the streets.  It was
> > difficult to get along without a word or two of that language for an
> > occasion."
> >
> > (I included that quote only because it's interesting that the
> > situation with Spanish is switched with English... it's difficult to
> > get along in Monterey now without a word or two of English, although
> > you can get by if you speak Spanish... so all is not lost for Spanish
> > here :))
> >
> >
> > "Across the Plains" is interesting, especially where it discusses
> > Monterey in both chapters "The Old Pacific Capital" and "Mexicans,
> > Americans, and Indians". It's very interesting and his description of
> > the weather here is still the same.
> >
> > You can find "The Old Pacific Capital" here:
> > http://www.bookrags.com/ebooks/614/30.html
> >
> > And "Mexicans, Americans, and Indians" here:
> > http://www.bookrags.com/ebooks/614/35.html
> >
> > --
> > Listen Johnny;
> > You're like a mother to the girl you've fallen for,
> > And you're still falling,
> > And if they come tonight
> > You'll roll up tight and take whatever's coming to you next.
> >
> > Slow Graffitti - Belle and Sebastian
>
> --
> Wesley Parish
> * * *
> Clinersterton beademung - in all of love.  RIP James Blish
> * * *
> Mau e ki, "He aha te mea nui?"
> You ask, "What is the most important thing?"
> Maku e ki, "He tangata, he tangata, he tangata."
> I reply, "It is people, it is people, it is people."