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Re: syllable importance

From:<jcowan@...>
Date:Wednesday, February 18, 2004, 21:03
Dirk Elzinga scripsit:

> I'm a bit skeptical about this. Plenty of counterexamples can be found:
Ah, good, we love those!
> 'awesome', 'cross', 'eager', 'fake', 'ill', 'like', 'loath', 'mordant', > 'placid', 'prime', 'real', 'right', 'rugged', 'wanton', 'wrong' all fit > within a trochaic frame but can't inflect;
I think there are ad hoc explanations for most of these: "awesome", "mordant", and "wanton" are rather spondees than trochees; adjectives that already end in -er or -est can't take another one; -er is bad where it collides with agentive -er on a homonymous verb; I don't know what to make of "wrong". I have no trouble with "crosser", though, and googling for "crosser and crosser" finds 124 hits as opposed to 441 for "more and more cross", so it is a respectable minority usage.
> So while the syllable-based generalization may be a rough approximation > of what's going on, there's more to it that is still rather mysterious.
It sure is. Non-rhotic limerick: There was a young couple from Florida, Whose passion grew steadily torrider. They were planning to sin In a room in an inn; Who could wait? So they screwed in the corridor. --Isaac Asimov "Torrid" fits the frame, but I find no Google hits except for this very verse and one other verse, where it is rhymed with "horrider". -- John Cowan www.ccil.org/~cowan www.reutershealth.com jcowan@reutershealth.com In might the Feanorians / that swore the unforgotten oath brought war into Arvernien / with burning and with broken troth. and Elwing from her fastness dim / then cast her in the waters wide, but like a mew was swiftly borne, / uplifted o'er the roaring tide. --the Earendillinwe

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