Re: [IE conlangs]]

In a message dated 4/12/1999 8:10:12 PM, artabanos@MAIL.UTEXAS.EDU writes:

>Steg Belsky wrote:
>
>> In the NYC / Long Island area /&/ before nasals and /s/ (grass, can,
>ran,
>> Sam, bass, damn, fast; but it seems not before /N/) becomes the diphthong
>> [e@].  It also happens in other words, such as "bad" and "stab".
I think I know what you're talking about here . . . tho I wouldn't describe
it as [e@] - in fact I have no idea what it was. There probably is no IPA
symbol for it. I would use it in all the words above, tho, except in "can"
when it means "be able to" (tho it is used in "can't") and also, "ran" I
think could be either one.

>Well, those are both voiced stops... does it also happen with "bag"?  If
It happens for me with "bag."

>so,
>then you have a soundlaw in operation there.  If not, then it might be
>that
>your vowel breaking (diphthongization) there might specificly exclude
>velar consonants.  Which would be an interesting soundlaw.
>BTW, does it also happen to & / _z ? As in "as" or "frazzled" or something
>like that.
Nope.

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