Re: Two questions about Esperanto

On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 07:27:14 +0200, Andreas Johansson <andjo@...> wrote:
> Quoting Philip Newton <philip.newton@...>:
>
> > On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 19:35:00 +0200, Andreas Johansson <andjo@...> wrote:
> > > (I've got a sketch of German phonology that lists /x/ and /r/ as a
> > > voiceless/voiced fricative pair along with /f/~/v/ and /s/~/z/.)
> >
> > That's more or less what it feels like to me, though my /x/ and /r/
> > don't feel uvular to me - at least, they're not as far back as when I
> > try to make a [q]. But they're definitely further back than my /k/ and
> > /g/.
>
> Personally, I find it counterintuitive, because /r/ does not pattern like the
> (other) voiced fricatives do.
True; it patterns differently, and they don't feel like a
voiced-unvoiced pair when I'm thinking about phonemes of German. But
when I'm thinking about the default representation, they seem very
close together in pronunciation, even if their functions are rather
different.

Cheers,
--
Philip Newton <philip.newton@...>