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Re: Apostrophes etc. YAEPT/YAEDT (was: Re: Fwd: [Theory] Types of numerals)

From:Andreas Johansson <andjo@...>
Date:Friday, January 20, 2006, 18:09
Quoting Philip Newton <philip.newton@...>:

> On 1/20/06, Mark J. Reed <markjreed@...> wrote: > > On 1/19/06, tomhchappell <tomhchappell@...> wrote: > > > --- In conlang@yahoogroups.com, "Mark J. Reed" <markjreed@M...> wrote: > > > > I'd say "vacuum" is a bogus example. Despite the spelling, there > > > > are only two syllables and only one vowel sound in the second > > > > syllable; it's /'v&k.jum/, not /'v&k.ju.um/. > > > > > > Four major dictionaries on-line list all three pronunciations. > > > Three of them list the ".ju.@m" pronunciation _first_. > > > > Whups. My bad. I had no idea anyone pronounced it that way. > > Nor had I. > > > > > English has a word "permille" analogous to "percent" for parts per > > > > thousand; there's even a symbol for it, analogous to %: o/oo. Rarer > > > > still are "permyriad" and the corresponding symbol, meaning > > > > parts per 10,000. > > > > > > Thanks; I've never heard or seen either of those words in English > > > before. > > > > Neither had I until I ran across their symbols in the Unicode > > Standard. As I said, they're somewhat rare. Perhaps even archaic at > > this point. > > "permille" (as "Promille") is somewhat used in Germany to refer to > blood alcohol concentrations, but its symbol isn't (I think - or not > as much as the word). I hadn't seen "permyriad" before, though its > meaning is fairly transparent.
In Swedish, _promille_, along with its symbol, is used in certain contexts, the blood-alcohol being probably the commonest one, but certainly not the only one. I hadn't heard of "permyriad" before, tho it's perfectly transparent. For ppm and ppb we simply speak of _miljondelar_ "millionths" and _miljarddelar_ "billionths" (a _biljondel_ would be 10^-12). Andreas