Re: Wenedyk - Master (?) Plan

 --- Roger Mills wrote:

> >Second, I have decided to change the name of the language to Wenedyk,
> >derived from the name the Romans used for the Slavs (later for the West
> >Slavs), Venedi.
>
> The  name is very suggestive.  Do you have Venetic in the background?? If
> I'm not mistaken, its origins are rather obscure.  I'm not sure what's
> available on it nowadays, but do remember seeing a brief monograph from the
> 40s or 50s published by U.Cal. IIRC
"Those who maintain the theory that the original home of the Slavs was in the
countries along the Danube have tried to refure the opinion that these
references relate to the ancestors of the present Slavs, but their arguments
are inconclusive. Besides these definite notices there are several others that
are neither clear nor certain. The Wends or Slavs have had connected with them
as old tribal confederates of the present Slavs the *Budinoi* mentioned by
Herodotus, and also the Island of Banoma mentioned by Pliny, further the
Venetae, the original inhabitants of the present Province of Venice, as well as
the Homeric Venetoi, Caesar's Veneti in Gaul and Anglia, etc. In all
probability, the Adriatic Veneti were an Illyrian tribe related to the present
Albanians, but nothing is known of them. With more reason can the old story
that the Greeks obtained amber from the River Eridanos in the country of the
Enetoi be applied to the Wends or Slavs; from which it may be concluded that
the Slavs were already living on the shores of the Baltic in the fourth century
before Christ".

> Sad to say, I know next to nothing about Slavic linguistics (beyond what
> little I've picked up from lurking on Cybalist), but your Master Plan looks
> viable IMO.
Thank you. I am working on the grammar right now and creating some words, and
it seems to work :)

> I believe I've read somewhere that there seem to be Slavic-like
> features in Venetic, though that's speculative.
See above.

> >Nasalization of the preceding vowel leads (like in Russian and other Slavic
> >languages, but unlike in Polish) lead to the following changes:
> >[a~]     [u]
>
> Hmmm...how do you derive that?
This is exactly what happens between Polish and for example Russian.
For example:
P. /kopna,c'/ = R. /kopnut'/ (a, = a-ogonek, c' = c acutus, t' = t + weak sign)
P. /ma,z./ = R. /muz^/ (a, = a-ogonek, z. = dotted z, z^ = z-haczek)

But to be honest, I have some doubts about this sounds change. I don't want to
be just copying features from Slavic languages into Wenedyk; I think I'm free
to let my own taste play a role as well. And if I were to follow this rule,
Latin /cantare/ would become /kutar/ in Wenedyk. Nothing wrong with that of
course, but somehow I think I would prefer /katar/.

Jan

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