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Re: Babel in the east or not?

From:Steg Belsky <draqonfayir@...>
Date:Friday, December 18, 1998, 19:37
On Thu, 17 Dec 1998 18:31:32 -0600 Tom Wier <artabanos@...>
writes:
>Clinton Moreland-Stringham wrote: >> > Can you cite any of these supposed Jacobite interventions? >> The first one off the top of my head is the infamous "Thou >shalt >> not suffer a witch to live." The actual hebrew here means >'poisoner'.
>Sure, but you can't take that out of context. Where are your sources >on this? Do you know Biblical Hebrew? Surely Stephen Belsky could >help us in this -- is he still on the list?
The phrase (i did a short report on this commandment last year) is _mekhasheifa lo' tehhayeh_ (do not 'enliven' a witch). Mekhasheifa is always translated into English as "witch", because that's pretty much what it means. Here's a quick translation of my report: ---------------- The commandment (mitzva) of not to 'enliven' a witch is a verse all to itself....the prohibition includes a few laws. 1, the most obvious, is that it's prohibited to let a witch live - instead to punish her for witchcraft, whose punishment is death. We also learn from here that if you find a witch who is not jewish (who is not included in the prohibition of *practicing* witcraft), she doesn't get the death penalty, instead it is prohibited for a jew to give her any monetary benefit or anything that could help her to live, like selling her food. The commandment is only an imperative to judges to punish a witch [note: here i used the male form]. In another place in the Tora there is the prohibition on practicing witchcraft itself, where it is written "there shall not be found among you.....a witch". Seifer Hahhinukh ("the book of education", a medieval book explaining each of the Biblical laws in order) explains what exactly is "witchcraft" which is forbidden. Witchcraft (kishuf) is an action by which, for a second, the power of a human is stronger than the will of the "pamalya' shel mal`a", the angels who are appointed over a certain thing [situation], and because of that an action is formed in the world which is a mixture of actions, something unnatural like animal interbreeding [which is forbidden] and sha`attneiz (another forbidden mixture, weaving animal and vegetable fibers in the same garment). There are witchcrafts that use demons, and ones that aren't done with the help or use of demons. But, in any case, [MAIN IMPORTANT POINT-------->] to be considered witchcraft, an action has to be HURTFUL TO ANOTHER PERSON - it says in the Gemara that "all [actions] that are done for the purpose of healing have nothing in them of the ways of the Emori [witchcraft]". In other words, if there is a strange action, that looks like it is a supernatural power which a human is not supposed to use, if it's for a good purpose, like healing, there is no prohibition WHATSOEVER, because witchcraft is defined by the BODILY HARM that it causes. [END OF IMPORTANT POINT] ------------- That's the beginning....the rest of it goes into details of commentaries on the phrasing of the prohibition, the connection between it and the commandments around it, and stuff like that. Btw, many important jewish philosophers, such as Maimonides and R' Yoseif Tzvi Hertz, have the position that witchcraft doesn't really exist (neither do demons, the evil eye, necromancy, etc.), and that the biblical prohibition on it just comes to teach various moral lessons. -Stephen (Steg) PS- i got an 100 on the report :) ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]